Good bye Slicr and Repetier, hallo Cura!

K8200 3D Printer K8200 - Printer software (repetier, slicer, ...) a
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Just shifted to Cura and my opinion is that it is MUCH better than Slicr… should have done that before.

I had some strange errors with Slicr when using support ect. and just sped SO much time adjusting, so i shifted to Cura just to try it out and I am just saying WOW!

  1. Cura is MUCH faster than Slicr
  2. When using support in Cura, support material is only touching the model where needed!!
  3. In Cura the treefrog http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:18479 can be printed without infill and still produce a perfect result because of “intelligent” software (not possible in slicr).
  4. Overall Cura is more simple, easy to use and more “intelligent” slicing the model producing more satisfying results.

I have just been playing with the pause function i Cura where it is possible to change filament at a specific height.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVm_GWecxSA&feature=c4-overview&list=UUOCsb2CYG4zc-ZrylOdgiHQ

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I couldn’t get repetier and slicr to work correct in the beginning.
Cura worked good at that moment.

After i put the lcd on i couldn’t get cura to work ok and tried using slicr again.
This time i got it working pretty good.
Today i needed to print a larger item and it took slicr almost 8 minutes to generate a gcode at a 7 mb size.
When i started printing i noticed that the bottom layers where not nice and the rest also wasn’t that great.

So i downloaded the newest Cura and started all over setting it up.
It takes Cura only a few seconds to generate the gcode and the size is much smaller at 2,5 mb.

Printed the same part (5 hour slicr and 3,5 hour Cura) the Cura part came out much nicer.

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Are there any special settings I need for Cura? I’m literally 4 days into trying to print with my new 3D printer, and I want to junk-punch my computer.

~Doc

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Ive used Cura for about a year and a bit on works ultimaker, and finally managed to get it working on the K8200 last month.

Far superior to Slicer and repetier.

Its far simpler to adjust for the part your printing and far more user friendly.

Oh and much better prints.

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What speed settings are you using in Cura?

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@jangermann

Can you share you cura configuration file to be able to use this software.

thanks in advance

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Hi.

Here is my config: http://germann.dk/sletmig/3d/Cura_PLA.zip
Just load it in “open profile”

Make sure the machine settings like this

  1. Load the config file.
  2. Adjust machine settings
  3. Load the model
  4. Hit the print button
  5. Choose bed and hotend temerature.
  6. press print
    Enjoy :wink:
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Ok thanks. I’m just trying

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i love cura.

thingiverse.com/thing:257799

ABS settings

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Thanks to jangermann for giving his settings for Cura. I tried it and wow, Cura is so much better then Slic3r. From now on, I’m gonna use Cura to print.

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In your profile, there is a nozzle size of 0.4mm even though the K8200 has a default 0.5 nozzle.
How come? Ist that a trial & error result of test runs or did you measure the real nozzle size?

BTW i do agree: print results with cura are way better than Repetier/Slicr
Do you have a Cura profile for ABS too?

[quote=“jangermann”]Hi.

Here is my config: http://germann.dk/sletmig/3d/Cura_PLA.zip
Just load it in “open profile”

  1. Load the config file.
  2. Adjust machine settings
  3. Load the model
  4. Hit the print button
  5. Choose bed and hotend temerature.
  6. press print
    Enjoy ;-)[/quote]
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You will find abs profile with this thing on thingiverse

[quote=“treblasnirp”]i love cura.

thingiverse.com/thing:257799

ABS settings[/quote]

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Hi. I cannot download Cura PLA settings for K8200 original. Can anybody reattach his settings please?

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I second the request for the Cura settings file. The download link times out. Thanks G

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Hey, uploading this little file would take way too much time :wink:

I used this ini and it worked quiet good for me…

just copy and paste the code in a .ini file and then open the profile in cura.

For me i have really good results even tough you might be able to increase the printing speed…

Good Luck and have fun!

p.s. sorry for the long code…was longer than expected :wink:

edit: you might want to change the speed to 50 mm/s … with 30 mm/s the prints were not that great…

[code][profile]
layer_height = 0.2
wall_thickness = 0.8
retraction_enable = True
solid_layer_thickness = 0.6
fill_density = 30
nozzle_size = 0.3
print_speed = 30
print_temperature = 0
print_temperature2 = 0
print_temperature3 = 0
print_temperature4 = 0
print_bed_temperature = 0
support = None
platform_adhesion = None
support_dual_extrusion = Both
wipe_tower = False
wipe_tower_volume = 15
ooze_shield = False
filament_diameter = 3
filament_diameter2 = 0
filament_diameter3 = 0
filament_diameter4 = 0
filament_flow = 135
retraction_speed = 50
retraction_amount = 2
retraction_dual_amount = 16.5
retraction_min_travel = 1
retraction_combing = True
retraction_minimal_extrusion = 0.02
bottom_thickness = 0.2
object_sink = 0.0
overlap_dual = 0.15
travel_speed = 100
bottom_layer_speed = 20
infill_speed = 0.0
cool_min_layer_time = 5
fan_enabled = True
skirt_line_count = 3
skirt_gap = 3.0
skirt_minimal_length = 0
fan_full_height = 0.5
fan_speed = 100
fan_speed_max = 100
cool_min_feedrate = 10
cool_head_lift = False
solid_top = True
solid_bottom = True
fill_overlap = 20
support_fill_rate = 15
support_xy_distance = 0.7
support_z_distance = 0.15
spiralize = False
brim_line_count = 20
raft_margin = 5
raft_line_spacing = 1.0
raft_base_thickness = 0.3
raft_base_linewidth = 0.7
raft_interface_thickness = 0.2
raft_interface_linewidth = 0.2
fix_horrible_union_all_type_a = True
fix_horrible_union_all_type_b = False
fix_horrible_use_open_bits = False
fix_horrible_extensive_stitching = False
plugin_config = (lp1
.
object_center_x = -1
object_center_y = -1

[alterations]
start.gcode = ;Sliced at: {day} {date} {time}
;Basic settings: Layer height: {layer_height} Walls: {wall_thickness} Fill: {fill_density}
;Print time: {print_time}
;Filament used: {filament_amount}m {filament_weight}g
;Filament cost: {filament_cost}
M190 S60 ;Uncomment to add your own bed temperature line
M109 S200 ;Uncomment to add your own temperature line
G21 ;metric values
G90 ;absolute positioning
M107 ;start with the fan off
G28 X0 Y0 ;move X/Y to min endstops
G28 Z0 ;move Z to min endstops
G1 Z15.0 F{travel_speed} ;move the platform down 15mm
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length
G1 F200 E3 ;extrude 3mm of feed stock
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again
G1 F{travel_speed}
;Put printing message on LCD screen
M117 Printing…
end.gcode = ;End GCode
M104 S0 ;extruder heater off
M140 S0 ;heated bed heater off (if you have it)
G91 ;relative positioning
G1 E-1 F300 ;retract the filament a bit before lifting the nozzle, to release some of the pressure
G1 Z+0.5 E-5 X-20 Y-20 F{travel_speed} ;move Z up a bit and retract filament even more
G28 X0 Y0 ;move X/Y to min endstops, so the head is out of the way
M84 ;steppers off
G90 ;absolute positioning
start2.gcode = ;Sliced at: {day} {date} {time}
;Basic settings: Layer height: {layer_height} Walls: {wall_thickness} Fill: {fill_density}
;Print time: {print_time}
;Filament used: {filament_amount}m {filament_weight}g
;Filament cost: {filament_cost}
;M190 S{print_bed_temperature} ;Uncomment to add your own bed temperature line
;M104 S{print_temperature} ;Uncomment to add your own temperature line
;M109 T1 S{print_temperature2} ;Uncomment to add your own temperature line
;M109 T0 S{print_temperature} ;Uncomment to add your own temperature line
G21 ;metric values
G90 ;absolute positioning
M107 ;start with the fan off
G28 X0 Y0 ;move X/Y to min endstops
G28 Z0 ;move Z to min endstops
G1 Z15.0 F{travel_speed} ;move the platform down 15mm
T1 ;Switch to the 2nd extruder
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length
G1 F200 E10 ;extrude 10mm of feed stock
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again
G1 F200 E-{retraction_dual_amount}
T0 ;Switch to the first extruder
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length
G1 F200 E10 ;extrude 10mm of feed stock
G92 E0 ;zero the extruded length again
G1 F{travel_speed}
;Put printing message on LCD screen
M117 Printing…
end2.gcode = ;End GCode
M104 T0 S0 ;extruder heater off
M104 T1 S0 ;extruder heater off
M140 S0 ;heated bed heater off (if you have it)
G91 ;relative positioning
G1 E-1 F300 ;retract the filament a bit before lifting the nozzle, to release some of the pressure
G1 Z+0.5 E-5 X-20 Y-20 F{travel_speed} ;move Z up a bit and retract filament even more
G28 X0 Y0 ;move X/Y to min endstops, so the head is out of the way
M84 ;steppers off
G90 ;absolute positioning
support_start.gcode =
support_end.gcode =
cool_start.gcode =
cool_end.gcode =
replace.csv =
switchextruder.gcode = ;Switch between the current extruder and the next extruder, when printing with multiple extruders.
G92 E0
G1 E-36 F5000
G92 E0
T{extruder}
G1 X{new_x} Y{new_y} Z{new_z} F{travel_speed}
G1 E36 F5000
G92 E0

[/code]

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Very much appreciated. Thanks G

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I downloaded the latest version of Repetier Host, and it comes with both slic3r and Cura Engine embedded. Cura, running under Repetier Host, runs fine on my K8200. I’m not using the Vellemean Host version of Repetier because it has not been updated since March of 2013. (Way to go Velleman!) naturally, The k8400 version of Velleman host is the latest Repetier. but don’t worry K8400 owners, Velleman will screw you the way it screwed the K8200 owners. Just give them time.

Downloading the latest Repetier Host from the Repetier website for the K8200 is a trivial exercise. There is no need ever to use the Velleman Host Version. I’m talking about a PC of course, because the MAC is not well supported by Repetier Host.

This thread seems to imply that standalone Cura is better than Cura running under Repetier Host.

Whs would that be? If that is true, will someone please explain it to me?

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[quote=“artcominio”]I downloaded the latest version of Repetier Host, and it comes with both slic3r and Cura Engine embedded. Cura, running under Repetier Host, runs fine on my K8200. I’m not using the Vellemean Host version of Repetier because it has not been updated since March of 2013. (Way to go Velleman!) naturally, The k8400 version of Velleman host is the latest Repetier. but don’t worry K8400 owners, Velleman will screw you the way it screwed the K8200 owners. Just give them time.

Downloading the latest Repetier Host from the Repetier website for the K8200 is a trivial exercise. There is no need ever to use the Velleman Host Version. I’m talking about a PC of course, because the MAC is not well supported by Repetier Host.

This thread seems to imply that standalone Cura is better than Cura running under Repetier Host.

Whs would that be? If that is true, will someone please explain it to me?[/quote]

Maybe just a personal preference of the different UI.
I’ preferred to stick with repetier, having both set up on my pc.

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Art,

If you look at the date when this thread was started it was a year ago.
I don’t think Repetier had the Cura engine at the time.
I was using Cura at that time and found that when it sliced a project it would fix a lot of errors in the drawing.

I liked the slicer but did not care for the software as Repetier gave you more options like more control over the fan and other things.

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[quote=“Wrong Way”]Art,

If you look at the date when this thread was started it was a year ago.
I don’t think Repetier had the Cura engine at the time.
I was using Cura at that time and found that when it sliced a project it would fix a lot of errors in the drawing.

I liked the slicer but did not care for the software as Repetier gave you more options like more control over the fan and other things.[/quote]

If you download the latest and try Cura running in the Repetier environment, let us know what you think.