E3D Kraken installed

Hi all,

Today, I finished the rebuild of my K8200. I replaced the standard extruder/hotend with an E3D Kraken.

To get this working, I needed to replace the standard controller board with a RUMBA controller card. This card is capable to control up to three extruders, which make it possible to print in three colors or two colors and a support filament like 1.75mm PVA.

A big advantage of the Rumba card is, that you need to attach two power supplies. One for the heatbed and another one for the extruders/hotends and fans. This way you can connect a power supply with a higher voltage for the heatbed without additional circuits.

The E3D Kraken can only accept the 1.75mm filament via a Bowden extruder so I installed three Airtripper’s Direct Drive Bowden Extruders. You can print and build them yourself or a ready build item is also available via Ebay if I’m correct.

A disadvantage is, that the hotends are placed 20mm from eachother so the maximum usable print space will be a little bit smaller than the original space.

The E3D Kraken has got two connectors for water cooling, so on top of the printer, you see a 1.5 liter water reservoir that is used to cool the three hotends.

To attach the E3D Kraken to the printer, I designed a small adapter.

My Z-axis is still the original one as I never experienced major problems with the axis, but I will replace it once the new K8204 (Z axis upgrade rod en coupler) will be available, because it always can be improved a little bit. Then I will also install a second Z-Axis on the opposite site to further improve it.

In the picture below, you can see my very first trial with dual color printing. The main color was light blue so you can see some traces of the darker silver. I suppose if I used the colors reversed, the result would be slightly better.

Anyway, I still need to experiment with the retraction of the filament to prevent these traces a much as possible , but for my first print in dual color, I’m already very happy. I also need to adjust the amount of filament when the printer starts again with another color because now the first milimeters nothing is printed as the filament doesn’t come out yet due to the retraction.

I also need to adjust the printer settings as now you can see on the result that the spaces are not completely filled. So still a lot of work before the result will be optimal.

Next tests will be triple color or two colors with a support via the third extruder.

Wow !
look awsome

Great job. Could you please share the link to the extruders? thanks

Hi,

The Airtripper’s direct drive extruder:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35404

And a link to this guys blog with more information:
http://airtripper.com/1071/airtrippers-bowden-extruder-v3-updated-design/

Regards

hi,

great job.

how much does it cost to rebuild the printer like this?

with regards

ArneVdm

Hi Arne,

Well I guess it depends where you can find the pieces that you need.
I’ve found most items via ebay and the E3D Kraken of course via their online shop.

So what you need to convert it:

1 E3D Kraken
1 new controller card
3 Airtripper’s bowden extruders
3 stepper motors for the extruders
1 reservoir for the cooling

The E3D Kraken comes complete with 4 hotends, cooler block, cooler pump and tubing to connect the extruders with the hotends.

The controller card I bought is a Rumba card which is based on a ATmega2560. You can connect 3 extruders/hotends to this card, two Z motors, the normal fan to cool your project and you also have an exit for a second fan which I used for the cooler pump. (Gcode M42 P8 S255 or M42 P8 S0 to turn the pump on or off)

To get it up and running, you can use the Marlin firmware that you use for the standard K8200, but of course, you need to modify a few entries to activate a second and third extruder and you also need to select the new controller card in the firmware so it knows which pins are used to control all the hardware.

I’m busy with another project at the moment, but as soon as I find some time, I’ll make a two color print with support via the third extruder so you can see what might be done with it.

Are you willing to share the stl. files?
Concidering to do This mod as well.

Greets

Hi,

[quote=“Passi”]Are you willing to share the stl. files?
Concidering to do This mod as well.

Greets[/quote]
Sorry for the delay.
There you go:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:422583

thank you!

Hello,

I am thinking about also getting a kraken but i was wondering where you got that Rumba card.
I will need to get diffrent electronics but i don’t know wouldn’t it be better if you could use all 4.
Do you know of any controller that can support 4 extruders ?

Thanks.

[quote=“TheRealMozes”]Do you know of any controller that can support 4 extruders ?
[/quote]
Yes, this one. http://reprap.org/wiki/Duet

Hi,

Well I’ve found that card via Ebay in the United Kingdom.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RUMBA-Kits-RAMPS-1-4-Integrated-Mega2560-RepRap-Prusa-3D-Printers-/221396788609?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item7922950f7e

Regards

Hello.
I have a RUMBA board. I have long been used with 1 extruder.
I want to use 2 extrders. can you tell me if I should change.(in Marlin)
thank you for helping me.

Sounds great at all, unfortunately the picture links don’t work anymore…

thank you to answer me.
I do not understand. sorry

[quote=“belgian3d”]

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The links to the images don’t work anymore.

ok, I understand.
you can send the image on my mail address.
printvelleman@hotmail.com

or write the links directly.
I do not know if it works.

img4.hostingpics.net/pics/382191DSC0089.jpg

thank you

It’s YOUR pictures from YOUR first post that don’t work, not mine :wink:

you talk about what the picture?
I do not post pictures

i meant the original post from belgian3d, sorry